What British expats find annoying about Australia
Thursday, 10 April 2003
I've lived in Australia for five years now, and consider it my home. There are some annoying things about it though.
The inferiority complex
A few days ago, General Tommy Franks was giving a press conference on the state of the war. “What do you think of the quality of the Australian troops under your command?” an intrepid reporter from down-under asked. The whole room burst into laughter at this embarrassing plea for approval. “Excellent” the General replied with a laugh. There is an inferiority complex lurking deep inside every Australian. They believe they’re not seen as a real grown up country and are determined to prove to the rest of the world that this isn’t true.
The extremes of manners
Most Aussies are either so polite you want to slap them, or so rude you want to punch them.
The rampant political correctness
Middle class Australia seized on PC with a vengeance during the 90s. It is pursued with an ideological verve that would make Chairman Mao blink. Many cultural products are plastered in a heavy layer of PC, making much of the media so banal and unimaginative it’s not worth consuming.
The crappy television
Aussie commercial TV stations are like American ones without the imagination or the budget. A two hour movie quickly turns into a four hour marathon once you add in the commercials.
The lack of subtlety
A brick through your bedroom window is more subtle than the average Aussie.
No good curry
Australian-Indians appear to have forgotten their curry making abilities during the flight from Madras. There is more good Indian food in any suburb or London than on the entire Australian continent.
The invincible sportspeople
It may sound strange to the average Brit, but always winning is boring. Most Aussies can’t even be bothered to follow their cricket team any more. Victories that would be talked about for generations in the UK are barely mentioned.
All the macho garbage
There is a certain breed of Australian male, that only exists in order to prove he isn't gay. This largely consists of aggressive driving, owning dangerous dogs, getting drunk, starting fights and insulting strangers. Every pub has at least three of these guys out to ruin everyone else's night.
Their refusal to admit that we Brits are better than them
Try the old superiority ruse out here, and you’ll quickly be knocked down to size. They are quick to point out their sporting prowess, booming economy, Academy award winning actors, better food etc etc etc. My mention of the Beatles and Shakespeare are dismissed as yesterday’s news. Smug bastards.
Darren Samson
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You forgot...Please add to the list: Utes and Ute drivers - w@#kers Aussie Rules football - totally pointless and dull Local pubs are characterless The thing you raised thats the most salient is Aussie TV. Surely the worlds worst. Its like an extended nightmare on a low budget and without Foxtel I would perish. Nick, 01/16/2004 11:33:21 AM I agreeSome of this is a Sydney thing. Sydney can't do food, the pubs suck etc etc. I think you need cold weather and fireplaces - even if they are not lit - to have a good pub. ie: Adelaide/Melbourne. My idea of a perfect city. Well you pick up Melbourne and plonk it onto Sydney Harbour. Cultural Cringe - true, After the Olymics it was soooo embarrassing hearing the reporters grovel for the best Olympics ever statement... P.S I am an Aussie Cryptonomicon, 01/23/2004 10:02:45 PM Laugh it up!Actually, I think Aussie TV is better and we don't have to pay for it. In England, it's £116 a year for repeats, rubbish and Home and Away. So England has so much culture.... ever visited Milton Keynes? Laughing all the way to Oz..., 02/04/2004 05:28:12 PM AustraliaI don't know why you bothered emigrating. you take up the legitimate places that us worthy people try to fight so hard for with a genuine interest in the country and an ability to fit in where we will be gratefully accepted. perhaps you should return home and give the rest of us a turn!! Fion, 05/20/2004 10:52:01 AM bloody pomspiss off back to your stink hole country ya bloody pommie pussies before I ram mud crabs down ya throat with a burning stick. bazza, 05/24/2004 03:45:13 AM An Aussie living in BritainI think your comments just made my day. I live in England and it really sucks. I have lived in 4 countries in total and this has to be the worst, eventhough one country was actually in the third world. The people are so negative, critical and lazy. Anti-Brit, 06/11/2004 07:18:59 AM reply to aussiesin reply to "laughing all the way to oz' You pay tax dollars for the ABC which shows loads of British TV shows. Home and Away was shown on a commerial channel which was then dumped to channel 5 in the UK as the ratings dropped. Why go to the UK and experience Milton Keynes as your be all and end all? Did no one ever tell you about Bath (you know about the Romans?) or Chester or York, what about 3 hours up the motorway into Bonnie Scotland and the hundreds of year old castles? Like it or not lots or Australian heritage comes from there. Your comment is like saying "see Oz, go to Sydney" To Fion I am worthy of being here, my kids know no place else and they are proud "aussies" but that doesn't stop us missing things. You are a right "madam" for thinking you know it all. If grumbling about the telly makes us bad Aussies then you have a lot of growing up to do. I knew plenty of "aussies" in the UK and we didn't get fed up with them when they grumbled about the weather. Anti Brit/bloody poms get a life!!! you give Aussies a bad name! oz girl, 08/14/2004 03:33:37 PM And again !I actually posted this in the 'What Aussie ex-pats find annoying about Britain' section before reading this. So here it is again.......... The ozzies are a funny bunch, I will guarantee you that if you ever hear an Ozzie harping on about how bad the UK is and how great and superior Australia is he will NOT be a TRUE Australian..........yes an Aborigine. Yes morons that’s right because believe it or not ( and this will no doubt shock many of you ) unless you are an Aborigine your ancestors actually came from somewhere else.......PROBABLY ENGLAND ON A CONVICT SHIP ! Yes your heritage lies in the overspill from Newgate and every other prison from the start of the 19th century. The human crap that we deemed so bad that it needed to be sent 12,000 miles away. They all moan about the weather in the UK but many places in Australia get just as wet and just as cold. They come to England to do the menial jobs like bar work etc 'cus most of them spent their youth surfing, skateboarding or drinking ( or all three ) instead of going to school and are as thick as $hit. They think aussie rules football is far superior to proper football, which must account for the fact that they're the only twats who play it and most premiership players earn more money while sitting on the toilet than NFL players earn in a lifetime. I could go on all day........banks that charge you to get at your own money, zero culture (unless you count drinking and surfing), beer that tastes and has the strength of piss (christ they even use the word piss as slang for a beer............and STILL drink it), cuisine that consists of that well know delicacy.........the meat pie, girls that are among the biggest slappers on the planet.........but are too scared to go topless on the beach, TV that has ad breaks every 5 minutes (yes to anyone who hasn't been there you would think I was exaggerating but I timed it) and usually with the same ad repeated over and over, and when the program does appear it is some lame third rate US $hitcom, stamp duty on cars, fee's, permits and licences for just about everything you could imagine (you even need a permit to do DIY on your own friggin house), speed cameras everywhere which leads to everyone driving like it's a state funeral, NO MARMITE ( I mean the real marmite not the pale imitation sold there and certainly not Vegemite which tastes like Bovril with jizz added, creatures of every possible type and most of them deadly etc, etc, etc Gods country my Bollocks ! Give it back to rightful owners and send them all to some radioactive atoll somewhere in the Pacific so they can whine to themselves................and as for all you poms now living there, Britain is better off without you. PS I now live in Australia.....but that's another story. Johnny Five, 09/02/2004 12:50:23 PM Aussie HomesI agree with most just add this: I have always wondered why houses in Australia have slanting roofs ?. Is it because it snows in Australia or Aussies like to copy from British. IB, 09/09/2004 12:24:05 PM johnny fiveJohnny Five, You've got it all wrong mate, we don't go to the UK to work menial jobs in bars because we spent our youth surfing . We go to the UK to work menial jobs in bars so we can drink booze and root your sheilas. Wake up mate, there's more to life then whinging, watching TV and timing the ads for fuck sake! Tell ya what fella come down to the Bondi Hotel, we'll drink some piss, watch the footy (yeah the AFL), get in a fight, root some chicks and do a couple of burnouts in me ute. Also mate just quietly, how old are ya fella, cos "Johnny" that's a young whipper snappas name, good until you're about 12. It's gotta be "Johno" mate or it sounds a bit fairy eh. Oh and "Oz Girl" you can come too, just don't bring any of your 'liberated' girlfriends alright, good on ya darlin see ya at the pub. Bazza, 09/10/2004 01:25:02 AM Sad sack BritsFive years of snivelling and feeling sorry for oneself is so so english. If you really looked around you would see thatthere is a lot of cultural activities in this country. And in a climate like ours, of course we are sports fanatics. And of course we are good. Go back home you miserable sod. Patricia Young, 12/29/2004 05:09:27 PM balmain ferryIf there's there one thing that makes me cringe its the smell of all thos pommies on the ferry to and from Balmain every day. Its bad enough in Winter, but when Summer comes, I have to take the bus ! pommy, 05/12/2005 01:13:48 AM you aussies make me chuckle!You guys must love the POMS cos you can't them out of your mind. If were gonna look at s**t places like Milton Keynes why don't you look at your own country...Townsville, Rockhampton, Hervey Bay all the absolute pits with f**k all character. If Englands that bad why do so many aussies and kiwis come over here? All i've heard from the aussies is oh the weathers s**t in England and how rude everyone is in Sydney, who are the whingers now? England Rocks!! Paul, 06/03/2005 10:04:05 AM MarmiteHey there Johnny Five, Marmite is made under license here but the real stuff is sold under the name of OUR MATE yeast spread imported all the way from the UK, only the name has changed. the real stuff, 06/21/2005 08:30:49 AM Australia...**** Yeh I agree with Bazza and that Oz Girl Aussies dont go whinging about England, in fact, we couldnt give a **** about you! Your stupid ass Queen could die and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. u r not superior to us just coz we're a bunch of your old convicts. You know what? U sent most of us over here coz we stole a loaf of bread to SURVIVE, for **** sake! So dont get hot (not that u can over there, **** weather) just coz you sent your convicts to a better place and now your wishin you'd gone there. Aussie Sheila, 07/06/2005 10:48:21 PM Morons - all of youSo should everybody move back to Africa then? The food is terrible in both the UK and in Oz. Australians and Brits are comparably agressive. Oz has beautiful beaches, good fresh fruit and seafood - the UK has great architecture, beautiful green landscapes and is convenient to Europe. Both have their advantages depending on where you are at any particular point in your life and where your priorities lie. Not being open enough to ideas from outside of their national boundaries or dominant culture is a flaw with both countries... kumo, 07/20/2005 09:50:37 PM There are more facts !!I have lived in UK, USA, Australia and New Zealand. I believe every country has its pros and cons. My few observations are: 1. The salesmen working in USA shops or stores are very informative, helpful and courteous as compared to UK and there is no courtesy when you come to Australia, they never try to convince you to buy anything. Rather try to avoid questions as strangely lacks technical knowledge about the product they sell. A small question makes them agitated. And New Zealanders, if you ask them any question they look at you with a goofy look of a sheep and show you that they want to learn from you and start asking questions from you instead. 2. Australian men are fantastic and full of jokes, surf life, etc., but women are very frustrated, depressed and lacking sense of humor. That is one of the reasons that Australia has the highest percentage of single mothers or unmarried women or living single. That factors have also aggravated the depression and frustration in women and they have lost humor. 3. Another factors I have noticed here which is growing day by day is the copying USA. Australia was enjoying a wonderful economy, culture and society till they started copying USA in every walks of their lives. They should not forget that USA citizens are the most insecure people on earth, whereas, Australians enjoys the most sense of security of all. They don’t need cars to go and enjoy any place, trains and busses can take them anywhere and they are dam cheap as compared to UK. They should not indulge themselves issues like; Osama, Iraq, etc. and divide the nation. They should not also forget that USA is a big country to bear the losses of wars and Australian is not..... Saying all this, I believe the air of independence, aroma of flowers and chattering of birds under sunny day at a beach are the one that are only shared by Austrlians.... Mark Twin UK Citizen. Mark Twin, 08/30/2005 07:34:37 AM Australian Cultural AwarenessWhat a discussion! One thing that struck me straight away was the Aussies reply to this discussion, straight off nothing but the F*** word which I am assuming because you (especially Bazza - hmmm why do you have to add zza to every name possible? shazza, bazza, gazza, dazza.......) have no capacity to actually come up with a decent sentence in reply. One thing Us Brits do have is the ability to laugh at situations, laugh at ourselves and use humour in our day to day life. I have lived in Australia for fourteen years and the observations I have made about Australians have been: a) the inability to be a decent sportsman. If beaten god forbid, they still go on about how great they are but never give credit where it is due. b) use humour to throw insults to others c) unable to accept others cultures d) can't make a good comedy e) use crassness to have laugh f) rear their kids to walk around bare foot! On the other hand, I wouldn't leave Australia, it has its benefits, good weather, good work opportunities, better cost of living etc, so yes we will stay, and as you say take your jobs, and reap the benefits, maybe you should be a little more understanding, that the whinging usually comes from missing family and friends, and settling into a new country, we come here with an open mind, maybe the Aussies should try to learn to accept newcomers and maybe even reap some benefits themselves from people from another land! Oh and yes, for goodness sake learn to make a good curry, a beer that too please! Lisa, 09/11/2005 11:29:40 AM Silly topicPoms & Aussies are more similar than either would like to accept. Main difference is that poma have a superiority complex whereas Aussies have an inferiority complex. And it should be the other way around. Big Al, 09/30/2005 11:24:03 PM RemovedThis comment was removed as it contained offensive content. Billy, 12/12/2005 12:36:02 AM Sadly trueDarren's observations are painfully true. Many respondees have done Darren the favour of proving just how charmless, senseless, defensive and predictable Australians can be. There is the tired discussion about the convict days, the expected calls for you to "f##k off home" etc, the descent into tedium over this show on that channel and this particular food and so on. And everyone knows a "Bazza", and many of them will tell me where to go once I have made this comment. What I don't understand about these Australians is that, in their mind, the way they are is an argument for the way they are. If this is questioned, they can only fall back on the crudest symbols such as beer and "rooting chicks", and in their mind (and theirs only) by reverting to these symbols they have made a clear point, won the argument and really shown the other guy who is who. Meanwhile, we're all left mystified, thinking "Well, that's exactly what I was talking about, brickhead". I do love Australia, but not for the reasons that many Australians espouse. I want an identity that is richer than Pies and Football, but these are the things that everyone seems to celebrate as iconic. Such images conjured up by so many defenses of Australian culture have no soul, nothing of substance to them. I guess that every patriot has to find their own meaningful elements of culture. Related to this, it is becoming very popular now to use the word 'Australian' as a describing term. I think its popularised use is a discredit to our country as it is never more passionately or commonly used as when it is in connection with a banal concern such as the awarding of a freekick in football. I have lived in Australia for 20 years but have also lived outside of Australia for a significant amount of time. My accent is occasionally mistaken by foreigners in Australia and overseas as being English. Strangely enough, when I say that I am in fact Australian, most of the foreigners expect me to have taken their mistake as a compliment. I guess that the foreigners equate understandable speech with English rather than Australian heritage. Australians are often guilty of a similar confusion: equating resentment towards the English with a reluctance to become fluent in the language. Jon, 03/04/2006 12:23:09 PM SolutionWhat a hoot! Everywhere you go there is some grievance from the traveller or the native. So I've only worked and lived in 23 countries and have many more to go but it's a repetative trend and you just have to accept it as part the travel risk. More thoughtfulness and sympathy should go to those who have never had the chance to wander from their homeland for whatever reason. That way maybe they would accept strangers from foreign lands with open arms. Of all the countries mentioned here I have to say NZ is the best country to live in and the Kiwis trounce the Brits and Aussies more times than either would like to mention. Yes the Kiwi's do have an aversion to immigrants (unless they are emptying your fresh new bank accounts with a "I just shat in your water tank" and I'm doing you a service smile) but at the end of the day they are a helpful bunch when you need it. If your all sick of UK or OZ .... save up your cents/pennies and swing by NZ and loosen your load. Smile at the Maori's too as they are bigger than you ;-) Dionisus PS The wines better in NZ too and prostitution is legal! Dionisus, 03/24/2006 05:43:04 AM small planetIsn't time Mr Howard sends his limp wristed foreign policy minister to Washington to partition for the 51st place of the Union, afterall there is something of the cowboy in every American, but a little bit of the sheep station in most Australians. Come on Australia, stop trying to prove yourself, ok you don't have a proud history like America but who cares, put another shrimp on the bar bee & crack a tinny, get over yourself! Yank in Melbourne mike, 04/07/2006 05:49:47 AM hahahashut the **** up all of you! this is so crazy! here i was searching google to see if brits love aussie accents for when i holiday there, and i find all this ****! haha unbelieveable. who cares man, aussies have their own lifstyle, brits have theres! all i wanna do is hook up! stop all the hating! as for the bad beer comment, no way buddy, aussie beer in an aussie pub followed by an event (either footy or cricket or even roo shooting if thats whats going) is choice! plus we're all fairly laid back so nobody really cares about the whole them/us i hate/u hate issues. oh and our guys are the hottest! specially county boys, and u brit girls know it. cya in your territory when i come for holidays! p.s DO YOU LIKE OUR ACCENTS OR WHAT? shae, 04/12/2006 04:58:15 AM what the hey mate what r u doin waisting ur bloody time on dissin the aussies just because u no u will neva be a true blue australian u sound like a dik most australians laugh at the yanks and poms trying to imitate our geniune accent you suck at it. u have to admit ur only writing this stupid thing because ur jelous. Im sick of u bloody idiots writing article like this i mean most of this isnt even true we laugh at our selves we find ourselves hilarious and we love laughing at poms and americans cause u guys r hilarious 2. most of the jokes u hear r made up by aussies and what about us being desperate u got 2 be kidding me u sound like uve never met a aussie in your life real aussie chick, 04/18/2006 03:02:57 AM hahajust wanna say 1 thing us aussies our real laid back. we luv 2 start arguments then well sit bak and watch it progress its hilariious. oz, 04/18/2006 03:07:33 AM loli just read a comment from a pom that a missed 1 thing i would say wat r u talkin about were always laughing i never see a person in australia who is serious and never laughs i mean im laughing at ur comments at the moment hek im laughing at my comments its funny. hav u ever seen our comedy movies like Thunderstruck and The Nugget thier the best movies better than all the american comedy movies which most arent even funny oz, 04/18/2006 03:13:56 AM aussie rules ruleI find the comment about aussie rules being pointless and dull just hiliarious - it's evidence of how much damage to the senses soccer can do. Hugh, 04/21/2006 12:11:59 PM Too all of you!I have lived in both Australia and England and a few more countries i wont go into, I found the best country was New Zealand, the other countries.....well suck and the people well none of you are better than any other......so i say to you people...... GET A ********* LIFE!!!! Savage, 04/24/2006 12:21:59 AM I've lived in the UK and IrelandWhere are you Darren Sampson? I'd like to know which little corner of Australia you're experiencing and trying to apply to an entire nation. Inferiority Complex... I agree. It's blatantly true that Australia and Australian people have this need for approval. That, and through sport, is where expression of our national pride starts and ends. It's extremely uncool to express national pride in any other way. You won't see too many flags flying from people's homes. You won't see too many people wearing t-shirts with our flag on them. Extremes of Manners... I know English people like that too. Some people are kind and genuine and others are dis-injinuous or completely and utterly rude. Rampant Political Correctness... Tides are turning. I gave up PC when I realised that PC required me to lie. I have to say though, sport media eminating from the UK is without excpetion completely and utterly biased. The crappy television... not too fond of Australian tv myself but I'm beginning to think you either have a very morbid idea of what good tv is or you've forgotten about all those soap opera 'omnibuses'. British tv goes like this... East enders twice a day, Home and away twice a day, Coronation street twice a day, Neighbours twice a day, Emmerdale twice a day... Then on the weekend, all of the episodes from during the week are played back to back! You have the same number of adds as we do but you cram them all into 1 ad break. I thought the UK invented low budget tv??? I can't think of a british tv show that comes anywhere near the expenditure of american tv. The lack of subtlety... I've been accused of that in Ireland. I assuming they mean I get straight to the point without dicking around. I take that as a compliment. No good curry... Curry i've tasted in England and Ireland is weak as piss in comparison. I've also found the brits are nowhere near as adventurous when it comes to food. Say what you will about the meat pie but what about all your local chippers? You can't get much more disgusting that fish and chips. The invincible sportspeople... Your annoyed that we win at sport and don't care? Who has the complex now? All the macho garbage... That's a manner of point of view. Macho Australians probably go to England and get sick of all the femininity. Their refusal to admit that we Brits are better than them... Why should we think you're better than us anyway? As a nation largely descendant of yours that formed long after shakespear died we have just as much claim to him as you do. He's part of our history too. Menial Work Comment... It should be pointed out that those Australians going to England to do bar work are there on working holiday visas that don't allow them to do non-menial work. They can stay a maximum of 2 years and are all under the age of 30. Aussie Rules Football... Pointless and dull yes (Qlders hate it) I'd rank it as the second most pointless and dull sport ever invented after soccer. Obsession with Sport... The English are far more obsessed with sport that we are. They're just not as good at it and aren't interested in any good sports. Trivial Pursuit here manages to put soccer questions in just about ever category. Even history and science. TV and radio air time is ridiculously weighted towards soccer over everything else. To answer your question Shae, some love our accents, some hate em and some are indifferent. Expect their attitudes and world views to match that of your grandmother and try not to crap on too much about Australia and all the little differences. It will be mis-interpreted as a salespitch for you home country and thus inferiority complex. Aussie in Ireland, 04/29/2006 08:25:36 PM ConvictsAh missed this one. I've done a lot of family history research recently and can't find a single ancestor that came over on a convict ship. The truth is the majority of Australians are descendant from free settlers. Many of whom received financial assistance from either government. One of the most ignorant comments i've ever heard from people living in the UK and Ireland is that we are descendant from murderers. To that I simply point out that murderers were executed in 1788, not gaoled. Aussie in Ireland, 04/29/2006 08:33:38 PM No good curry?The British are so uncultured that they have to sell chips in their asian restaurants! N Ozy, 04/30/2006 04:53:42 PM fhdhfThe only reason why Aussies go to UK is to pick up chicks because they are so wierd that what every we say to love it hdr, 05/06/2006 02:24:09 AM whinging AussieI am a brit who has spent 17 years living in australia, and loved every minute. We are presently living in the United States.I belong to an expat group which meets every week and includes Brits,Aussies, South Africans ect... unfortuately, the group that has the worst reputation for whinging are the Australians. Pity nobody tells them to get back to Australia you whinging bloody Aussie! = DB, 06/01/2006 10:47:38 AM AussiesI am a Canadian and been to Australia many times. I love Australia. They are a very friendly bunch of people. Although I live in Canada and If I ever want to live anywhere else that will be Australia. It’s really a very multicultural and a diverse country like Canada. I found the Australian food very delicious. Love the Aussie accent. Specially G'Day Mate...... Gerry, 06/01/2006 07:55:11 PM shut upi googled my husbands name (Darren Samson) and came accross you, and found you and he are so alike. you are both big girls and wine alot but you have an excuse your English. sally samson, 06/16/2006 05:59:40 AM What I like what I like about youI'm an Englishman living in Australia. I like the climate, the clean beaches and positive mental attitude to most things...but this blog is about annoying things so here goes; Beer, it's way too gassy and has no taste, Boags is half decent, but give me real ale from a cask any day. Over optimism in sport, someone really said to me that they thought Australia would draw with Brazil! Ha ha ha. I cracked up. Internet shopping - is crap in Australia. Websites have disclaimers saying that they have no responsibility for you recieving the goods! Some even try and get you to fax a copy of your credit card through to them! Apparently the banks are concerned about people defrauding them but not at all concerned about their customers being defrauded. Sprawling subburbs with metal garages. Charmless subburbs, every house looks different, every house looks tacky, all have the biggest, cheapest, ugliest garage, it's like a competition! The driving in Queensland is unbelievably bad, I've travelled all around the world and with the exception of India, the Queenslnaders are the worst drivers. If you're the only car on the road, some idiot will pull right out in front of you. On motorways people will race past congestion on the hard shoulder and if it rains they do emergency stops under motorway bridges for shelter! Aussies do whinge just as much as the POMs. Every Aussie says "we live mainly outdoors"....but you don't see them. Aussie TV is soooo bad, adverts at the end of the over in cricket sometimes missing the start of the next over...the way that adverts get more frequent further into the programme. The adverts are repeated so many times. It's unbearable. I can't watch 7 and 10. I reccommend Foxtel IQ, you can fast forward your way past them. I guess, like mozzie bites that Aussies are immuned to them. Curries - you have to track down a Bangladeshi curry house, they offer a bit of flavour but I'm yet to find one with any atmosphere. Which is like the pubs, absolute no charm, just giant metal hangers full of pokies, Tab screens and $hit beer. If you're lucky there'll be a pool table. You need to track down an Irish or British bar for atmosphere. Eating out is really cheap though. Tim, 06/20/2006 01:20:57 AM Austalia versus England SmackdownJust Surfing. Found this, had to get in on the action as I am a pomme and have lived in Sydney for two years. Look if you wanna slag off the English go a head, we don't give a monkeys and yes if you are an ex pat feel free to join in, as all the English know that our favourite pass time is putting ourselves down. It's all so "bloody" negative. So here's my contribution. Australia's lows are as follows. Pubs are crap. TAB whats that all about? Refusing to serve you if you are pissed, isn't that just bad business strategy? Not female friendly, if you go in a pub on your own people eye you up and down as if you're from MARS. The toilets need I say more. TV see all of the above, but the worst is the lack of comedy that is actually funny. Bad etiquette, people invite you to their party then don't introduce you to anybody. I actually spoke to an Aussie bloke who had lived in the UK and he said this too. SO ITS TRUE. Bank Charges. "Hello I'd like to open an aussie bank account." "Yes just sign here and be ready to rodgered doggie style every month over my desk. Financially speaking that is!!!!" No beautiful game. But this is changing, however I do find it slightly embarrassing that OZ calls thier team the Socceroos. Its just so twee not to mention gay. "Where does yor tax dollar go exactly?" "Medicare?" "Er no actually you have to pay for most of that yourself." "Well what about education?" "No you have to pay for that too unless you want to send your child to a school were they have to fight over the one pencil after singing the national anthem every morning." "Roads?" "No don't be silly there are tolls for that" Shall I go on? No but what is great about Australia? The men. I am virtually married to a beautiful aussie specimen and I am right pleased with me self. He's a hairy, grunting, piss swilling, barbecue building, macho aussie beef cake who's always up for a "root" and lets face it thats what us pomme girls love best about Australia. paula, 07/14/2006 02:42:43 AM Like to find outHi to all. I have been reading all comments with interest. I would love to have the chance to migrate to Oz and if I were lucky enough I would make sure I gave it my all to live 'their way'. Lets face it we in the UK moan enough about any other foreigners coming here, can't speak the language, won't abide by our legal system etc etc, so what's the difference of us brits going there and practising what we preach. Every country has good and bad points and thats that. But if any of us want to earn the respect of the aussies lets stop whinging out loud about petty things and try to get along! I hope to go to Oz one day and who cares about crap TV?? its everywhere!!! Li, 08/17/2006 05:18:30 AM Be nice!Interesting subject guys. Has anyone heard from Paulene Hanson? Im sure she has something inteligent to say....NOT Poiter, 08/27/2006 02:52:00 PM Get over itI'm an Englishman living in Australia and I love football (soccer). I think AFL is just a bunch of buffed up guys scrambling around for a ball and fighting off anyone who gets near them. Also, whenever the topic of International soccer comes about, the Australians are always quick to bring up how they beat the English 3-1. This somehow automatically makes them better (even presently) than them. Geez, that was like frickin' ages ago. Get over it! Michael , 09/24/2006 07:11:39 AM Yeah Rite!Michael, sounds like you poms should stick to playing with playdough and reading nursery rhymes. GROW UP! The only good thing about England is the Sooty Show! Ryan, 09/25/2006 01:00:36 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Oh, by the way Michael... did you say australia won? Ryan, 09/26/2006 03:57:09 PM A happy pomHaving lived for 60 years in London and now settled in Queensland for the last two. I have often thought about my new life here and the differences. For me it was a good move and am enjoying the lifestyle. But the only way I can explain the difference is it's like moving back in time about 20 years. The pace is so much slower, which is good and the people have more time to chat and there is no class distinction that is still around in UK. I like the Ausies and they are very friendly but they are a little behind the time. Their electricity supply is dodgy when the rain comes and they have only just realised that water is really important for their very existence. Their broadband is still steam driven and how on earth they have agreed to paying for a state pension all their working life and when they need it they let the government means test it? They do feel a little insecure and try make up for it by being good at sport. They are a young country and dont have the depth of history of Europe and this may be part of the problem. They also firmly believe in giving everyone a "fair go" but unfortunately it doesn't extend to aborigines, who really are the true Ausies. Having said all that I'm happy here and have a better standard of living than in UK. Regards form a happy pom ( perfection of mankind) Art, 10/14/2006 09:03:11 AM Pom in OZGood day all of you, i am a pom from Birmingham, well originally not from England as you can tell from my name, I came to Australia only ten years ago, with my family and have many aussie friends, many whom i have been able to teach to make a bloody good curry, i do like to go to the footy, no no not soccer but to real footy where the players are big and tough and crunch each other for two hours, my mates all swear like my uncles in Pakistan, and we used to have BBQ's in the desert and we made curries from camels humps, and yes we also made pies from goats. At first we we did arrive in Melbourne some aussies used to treat me badly, but i did not speak the language so i would laugh at them and call them names too, they now treat me like one of them and that is good for my six children, we often get called aborigines but we don't mind that because they once showed me how to make a really good kangaroo curry. Why do everyone be so unkind, we all want to live in this beautiful land and go to the beach for a surf, ah yes, a Pakistani pom riding a surfboard at Bells Beach, it don't get much better than that, the weather here is devine, sun, surf, BBQ's and a cold Aussie beer, where's the sunscreen? Abdul, 11/05/2006 12:57:34 AM The best thing about EnglandYeah Rite! Michael, sounds like you poms should stick to playing with playdough and reading nursery rhymes. GROW UP! The only good thing about England is the Sooty Show! Ryan, 26/09/2006 03:00:36 AM And Captain Pugwash. And Doctor Who Come to think of it, UK TV is the best in the world... Rob, 11/22/2006 06:30:45 AM Point by Point- The Inferiority thing: well being on the edge of the map we tend to be forgotten by the rest of the world. Thats the perception, anyway. - TV: Yea, its shit. Solution: turn off TV. - Subtlety: f*** subtlety. Honest and direct is the aussie way. - Curry: you kidding me? London has the s****est indian food anywhere. - Macho garbage: there are a few idiots everywhere, but Scotland has the worst drunks/jerks by far. - Brits being better: Better at doing what?? What does England produce nowadays besides shitty jokes? The only reason your economy is still standing on a crutch is the petroleum from the North Sea, and that's coming to an end. Brits are supposed to be big in the financial services area, but in my experience the shittest customer service I ever got was from british banks. Andy, 01/09/2007 03:39:23 AM 3 Years of crap!Jesus....! I think I just read the longest running forum slang match of all time. 3 years and counting. Surely you must all realise that the poms and the aussies are just apart of the same big family of whingin white bastards. I came on here looking around for info on working in the UK (as an aussie). Yes.. to root the chicks and write some code. Question.. How come if we are under the bloody queen we can't get an easy visa option? over 30 that is... Another Aussie, 02/06/2007 09:18:16 AM blahI'm a pom, lived in Sydney on and off for nearly 10 years now. I think a lot of people are missing the point of the original post. Of course if you think England is better than OZ, or vice versa then you should bugger off back there, but the point of the original post is that even if you're living in the country of your choice you will always miss things from somewhere else. I've also lived in Singapore and I miss things about there, but I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life there. After spending the last 2 years of my life in Edinburgh I've decided I only love the UK in summer time, never going to stand waiting for a bus to work in 1 degree celsius and rain ever again thanks. Like another poster mentioned, it just depends what you want at that point in your life, and right now I want sunshine. I don't eat Indian food myself so I can't comment on the curry in either country, but I was invited to an Indian restaurant in Carlingford in Sydney a couple of years ago (where I was able to order chips so it's not just a UK thing) and the front page of the menu cracked me up.... "Indian cuisine was invented in the UK in the 1970's..." This was a genuine Indian restaurant run by Indian people so I don't know where the hell they got the idea that Indian cuisine was "invented" outside of India! Steve, 02/21/2007 05:11:07 PM Is this Alf Garnet's site?I've just stumbled accidentally onto this site and though I am born in Australia, I am from blue blood British stock with many close links to England. This drivel is probably the reason I never admit to it. I hope you all feel so smart while you appear almost completely American. Facts, the only ones who came here in convict ships were the bad poms (I see we still have some of them with us) Indians who come here tend to accept Australia as their new home and make the most of its steak and vegie staple and the ocassional BBQ. If you're after a curry I'm afraid you landed in the wrong country! Now! where's that Paulene Hansen when you need her? Tom, 02/26/2007 04:22:28 AM Car Culture I decided to Travel & stay in Australia coming from Britain. Yes, the weather is better, but the endless suburbs and bungalow mania has to be a main concern. On the whole, though, I'd have to concede that car culture (coupled with aggressive driving) is the worst thing about australia bar none. A great country, but has anyone ever considered walking anywhere? I tried it for a while, but there are a lot of streets which don't have pavements (and the driving is terrible). Many crashes occur on straight roads - probably due to the fact that any kid with $2000 can get a beaten up v8 with no brakes and no insurance (and spin the wheels up all night, until colliding with a roundabout/dog/old lady/ or more usually a tree)... Rob, 03/12/2007 03:19:21 AM EXCUSE MEIf you dont like my bloody country or u find these things annoying... its simple "LEAVE" and stop calling your home Australia. OFFENDED, 04/16/2007 09:38:57 PM Aussie living in LondonI moved to london 18 months ago (from Sydney) and what frustates me beyond belief about this allegedly modern metropolis is: - Prehistoric tube trains (what is with those wooden boxes on the district line? *throw them away!*) - Heathrow airport, where do I start - the only airport in the modern world where it's normal to wait an hour for the steps to arrive, - Poor water pressure - 18 months after arriving I still haven't experienced a decent hot shower, - Living in a cramped dark box that leaks, yet visitors constantly marvelling at my lovely flat, - An attitude towards customer service remiscent of Telecom during the 1980's. (Despite living in london my taxes are handled at a village in scotland, where only 1 lady knows my account and can only be contacted on tuesdays between 3 & 5pm) - Unregulated false and misleading advertising at every turn, - An infatuation with fried eggs & baked beans. Things I like about London: - Cycling to work (through a park) - The ability to wear alcoholism as a badge of honour, - Proximity to Europe - Little old ladies in grey suits who love me for my australianism, then warn me not to shop in Sainsbury's since they've recently employed a gay man, (bless) - Free museums - Winning at every office sporting event (goes without saying) - Excellent public transport UK = infrastructure bodge nation. I will however admit my skin crawls when two surfy aussies board the tube at earls court and start comparing stories at the tops of their voices about chicks & doggy style the night before. puh-lease! M320, 06/13/2007 06:45:24 PM YogurtThis site is great. I found myself falling about with laughter at this crazy mud slinging competition between the Ozzy's and the Poms. I guess I am one of those whinging Poms who have been agonising over whether to go back and live in Australia to be with my partner (he is an Ozzy), or stay here in the U.K. Yes, most of my whinging was because I missed my friends and family, but I originally wanted to be in Australia to be with my partner, and because of Australia's beauty and good quality of life.. It appears to me that we are both as bad as each other! Yes, when I was out there I found the bogans and beer swilling quite something, only to be reminded of "Booze Britain" on my return to Britain, with 100's of young guys and girls staggering around the streets of Bristol late on Friday and Saturday nights! Can't we all just learn to get along and and embrace our differences?! P.S.On arrival to Australia I was often accused of speaking like the Queen and that I bore a remarkable resemblance to Hugh Grant.... Thanks. P.P.S. No I don't fancy a root in a Uht you dingo bogan, b*****ds, and stop drinking piss, it's disgusting. P.P.P.S. What's the difference between yogurt and Australia? Yogurt (it has culture) Haze, 07/15/2007 09:10:16 PM Come on peopleIt doesnt matter where you come from or where you go to, in the whole world its all the same, so be glad to wake up each day and continue bumping your gums, because that is what we do best as humans, hahahaha. Caribbean chick, 07/28/2007 08:45:02 PM Homesick no moreIm an Aussie living in India. Ive lived in UK also....both places Rock compared to this place, be grateful which ever place you live in! The best bit about India is the curry, so come here to get the real deal. Thanks for this post, im now over my bout of homesickness, cause i recon all the bad points about both countries are true. At least both countries have fresh air and no human waste in the street. far away, 10/08/2007 10:19:42 AM why expat Brit ?Why did Darren need to tell us that he is an expat Brit ? Was he trying to give himself cred ? This would be a good forum for him NOT to get written off as a whingeing Pom on the basis of any accent he may have. Criticism and alternatives need to be well presented and supported with evidence. Generally, Australia takes what it can use from elsewhere and adopts and modifies it unashamedly as its own. That's a good formula for success in any endeavour. Phil -- Bendigo, Vic -- Sat20Oct07 Phil, 10/20/2007 01:10:23 AM American in OzIve lived in this cotton pickin country for about 10 months now...I cant get back to the states fast enough! I feel like Ive gone through a time portal backwards 20 or 30 years! If you dont look too closely, you'd think you were in the middle of missouri in the late 70s...but when you do look a little closer its like a scary twilight zone episode where everything is not as it seems..things are backwards, bizzare and just all wrong! I'ts like a botched copy of America, like in that movie 'The Fly" lol for example... Yeah they have tv here(without satellite they have a whopping 5 or 6 channels)but anyway... when you look closely at foxtel, its a mess...repetitive long stupid annoying mind bending headache inducing ads that are on so often on all channels that one might end up being brainwashed! but thank God they even have foxtel, however 98% of houses still have giant antennas on thier rooves! and most of them are still actually using them! antenna signal boosters are a hot item here lol! again, like I said, late 70,s The food...ok...where to begin...yeah they have pizza everywhere but..shrimp on pizza? oh..Im sorry, prawns on pizza? I dont think they eat too much plain cheese pizza here because the pizza is so horrible that they need a load of toppings to hide the crappy flavour. And et tu Dominos? Dominos in the states is half way decent,Aussie Dominos tastes like cardboard, and like every other pizza here, they put heaps of toppings on every pizza. By the way..a New york pizza is the only real pizza. Fried chicken outlets everywhere too, but imagine this...its horrible..and KFC Oz style? well ever since I found live maggots in the bottom of the box my chicken came in, Ive banned them thank you. Side note: that KFC only refunded the money for the chicken in the maggot box, no money back for the entire meal, nice. next...seafood here...so far from what ive tried, its far too fishy, sort of like gamey tasting meat.. all meat has a strange underlying taste to it. beets on cheesburgers?oh Im sorry, beet root on cheeseburgers? need I say more? Thank God McDonalds, sorry again, Mackizz..thank God they dont put beets on there burgers...and when I say burgers I mean burgers! not chicken sandwiches on a bun ! chicken fillet burgers? first of all its pronounced fill-ay, not fill-it, and second of all its not a burger! a burger is a burger! with beef. Chinese food here is dry and gross..not worth eating. Try a fried dumpling and some pork fried rice the next time your in the states, you'll know what Chinese food is supposed to taste like! No family style restaraunts anywhere, only small individually owned places that look American but have nothing that resembles western food inside. chocolate doesnt compare to hersheys. milk tastes bad. eggs are brown and unrefridgerated. and do I really need to know where the chicken layed my unrefridgerated brown eggs? barn, free range, caged etc... case of beer for $35? Try 18 cans of Bud for $8.99 in the states! Beer here is not good and is 3 to 4 times more expensive. too low pressure tap water tastes like drinking from a garden hose..metallic aftertaste. American style shopping centers with American style supermarkets, but look close, you wont find more than a dozen American Items there, just bad tasting butchered copies, some with identical packaging, be careful the cocoa puffs are not as they seem! no rare roast beef in deli section..just dry nasty well done overcooked stuff..not worth eating. Oh my God, the hot dogs, dont even get me started on those scary bright red gross skin covered things! They might be the worst thing Ive ever eaten, and I love a good hot dog. bagels are thick heavy and no good. bananas are even different, harder maybe. 2 liter coke is $2.50! on sale too! food here is about 50% more expensive but the average income here is less...go figure. chicken flavoured potato chips? Tai food joints everywhere...In America, to be politically in-correct, Tai food places are avoided for good reason. I found a corn dog here! yayyyyy!..uh oh..look closely...ugh its not a corn dog at all, its a pluto pup, and its made with one of those scary red hot dogs :( I think you get the point about the food. B A R E F E E T! in supermarkets, gas stations, excuse me..servos, liquor stores, sorry..bottle-ohs, no shirts too..kids, parents most anyone. Saw a guy pumping his gas, barefoot, in a puddle of transmission fluid. And just today saw a father and son walk into supermarket..unbelievable, and it goes on very often. I could go on and on but I wont, I'll just add that I agree with about all thats been said about the aussies and their homeland...Its a lot of uneducated backwards no culture no patriotism secular red neck nation. The aussies are the rednecks of the british empire..like the rednecks in mississipi or alabama, but without the religon and the patriotism. By the way, I spent some time in New Zealand and found it to be nicer, but only to visit, not live. England Ive never been to so I have no opinion, but from what Ive heard, its been overrun with muslims, ridiculous, that theres about 500 years you brits aint gettin back...good job....enjoy the footwashing station at the local pub. Ernie, 11/13/2007 09:49:15 AM American in Ozone other thing...Australia has beautiful clean beaches...most of the girls are attractive...rugby is interesting...most people are friendly...sydney and bribane are nice little cities..surfers paradise is nice too... Australia is a nice place to visit for a few weeks maybe.. I dont recommend moving here from America though unless your a hillbilly from kentucky, in that case Australia would be a step up for ya :) I moved here from America because its where my future Kiwi wife lives...we're moving back to the states as soon as we can. Ernie, 11/14/2007 12:22:06 AM @American in OzBye Marvin, 11/15/2007 10:49:28 PM American in OzAmerican in Oz...I read your contribution with sadness.How can one person be so deluded. American popular culture is a disease spreading throughout the world.It causes more harm than good. To be 30 years "behind" means the rot hasn't fully taken hold. Go bomb something - preferrably in another hemisphere. As for the OZ v Pom thing - it is rubbish. Basically Ozzies and Pommies are the same. I feel the Australian character is essentially a British character that has been modified by the pioneering/developing a new country experience. I get on with the majority of Britz I meet.We seem to share a common sense of humour and slightly cynical view of the world.They have a very similar mind-set to Ozzies. Also, I love quality British TV. Finally, Britz don't have that god-fearing, born-again Christian, save-the-world,lets-bomb-someone, we-are-the-best, we-are-all-powerful crap that seems to be a character trait found in many Americans. JM PS American food! :-) Fat, salt, sugar and any other highly refined carbs...in giant portions. JM, 11/24/2007 01:04:11 AM Dual CitizenWell as a dual citizen of the UK and Australia I hope I can offer a non-biased view of the two countries. I wont even bother with the "american" in oz comments because it is known that Australian cities have been voted most livable in the world with a few other cities like Vancouver in lovely Canada.... Not one mention of an American city??? ALSO one of my friends from USA (she lives here now in OZ) and tells me how much less crime and clean OZ cities are.... I am not going to attack America, but it's leadership is corrupt because of the vote scandal in the year 2000 - a day that the usa died a lil :(. Anyway back to UK and Australia. PS BLESS CANADA. hehe. I lived in Brighton, Burnie and Brisbane. I like the letter B!!! Burnie is in Tasmania and is like England more then any other state except it aint crowded!! Brighton is a great progressive open minded city and loved my time there. Brisbane is an exciting city that is the fastest growing in the world nearly and love the sub tropical feel to it. I think that Brit supermarkets are far better then aussie because they offer lots of ORGANIC CHOICE. I believe the main problem with the UK is that it is far 2 expensive in contrast to Australia. It cost me more to take a train to airport then FLY to italy... explain that uk??? thats just WRONG.... So my big issue with UK is that it is way 2 expensive. I was living in a BOX LITERALLY in BRighton for like 500 pounds a month.... Here in Brissie I have 4 toilets - a garden - bbq - wide screen tv wireless net a shower that WORKS a modern kitchen for half the price.... These big issues aint rlly been mentioned. IT seems it has been about lil things like " macho aussies and whinging poms" well actually their cliches. ANyway another huge issue that again Australia wins on is class structure. THere is a huge emphasise on class structure still in the UK and the " posh accent" is what most aussies find rlly annoying. Do you think by talking like that you are better then the rest??? Here it is not even an issue and we r much more of an egalitarian society. When in England a lot of ppl told me why they would pick the UK over Australia, so I honestly believe they know it is a better place 2live, but love the hate - love relationship?? Anyway I have a far better life in Australia then the UK and only rec Brighton and London in the summer because the cold does go right through you. It is a tiny place and there r 3 times more ppl on there and it feels like a rat race in London. WAY 2 many cars on the road even when your walking around Burgess Hill. Ppl do seem to be not as happy - maybe cas it costs so much for a pint of that good beer over there. But there is nothing in the world better then playing a game of village cricket in a nice village in ENgland and scoring a 100 ( pommy bowling sucks ) and having a nice beer in a pub with character - NOTHING !! ^_^ johnny, 11/25/2007 02:12:52 AM Why fight it?I lived in London then moved to Los Angeles because of the sun and proximity to New York. I'm here in Australia for a year on a work stint and I have to say, it's been a difficult adjustment, after having been in the U.S. I understand how Australia would be safe and clean as there are very few people in this country. America is generally very clean, but all big cosmopolitan cities like London and Los Angeles have shitty and unsafe areas. Why did I choose to settle in America? The same reasons Simon Cowell did. Because I was able to make more money, live a grander lifestyle, start my own business, rub elbows with the beautiful people of L.A. I don't have any of that here, it's like being in a forgettable part of New Jersey. And just doing business with the Aussies and interacting with them on a daily basis, I'm beginning to see the inferiority complex and it's very painful. What's worse is when they put down Kiwis every chance they get--talk about an inferiority complex! I'm the worst: A pom from the U.S., 12/03/2007 02:38:00 AM Painful!I have been living in Brisbane for the last year and there are things I miss about the U.K that Australia doesnt have. e.g different seasons, going to country pubs and seeing the English countryside. However reading some of these comments I think it is unfair that some British people seem to think the Aussies are beer swilling, uncouth and uncultured. It is primarily a very different place and culture. My partner is Australian and thats why I am living over here. However I do cringe when I see the conflict between the two (and it does work both ways) Once you can appreciate that England is not Australia and vice versa its a lot easier to be happy in the respective country. Catherine, 12/28/2007 04:18:28 PM Aussie womenAussie men are great, in general are easy to get along with and have a good sense of humour. The women on the other hand, geez, what planet are they from? Cannot gel with them at all, they are dull, and seem to have had their sense of humour surgically removed. Such a shame... Irish female in Brisbane Cath, 01/07/2008 09:39:06 PM england?england is filthy and the cities are tacky and ugly and the people are ugly and live in ugly little boxes and have awful teeth and wear dreadful clothes: what a contrast to go across the channel to stylish civilized much cleaner europe ozfan, 01/16/2008 03:45:40 AM England & OzI have Dual UK/Aus citizenship & adore both countries & reckon citizens of both should should count their blessings that thet live in a First world nation. Firsly the ups for Oz: 1. Good climate compared with Oz. 2. Beaches 3. Jobs in construction pay better than UK (Yes its true) 4. Multi cultualism. The downs: 1. Racism. Ozzies (ONLY IN GENERAL/SOCIETY) are far more racist than Brits. Its the knock on effect of too much Pride which gives a superiority attitude. Just look at the comments on this website to items that are constructive critisism & the Ozzy response. I would,nt even look on this site if i was Ozzy bias against Brits. 2. Anti gay. Yes even Sydney is not that gay friendly. The UK is far more liberal in its recognition & has better laws. I am gay. 3. High taxation. Even if you compare with UK & include National Insurance it is higher. 4. Mateship. Creates 'Us & them' Now for UK.For the ups, 1. Its where i am from & will always have a bias. 2. Technological advancement. UK & Europe are more ahead. 3. Real cities..all Ozzy cities are large towns. 4. Transportation systems. The downs: 1. Weather of course.. 2. High property prices 3. Poms whinging as they have a negative trait..for whatever reason. Ozzies whinge more if in da USA... THe UN has benchmarks for best countries in the world for which Canada is tops & Aus 4th (after Scandanavian countries because of their excellent health system). My opinion is that Oz is tops because it has the weather which the others do not & i hate adding to that pride, cos i don,t like pride. End of the day its a choice of coutries to live & class myself as lucky to have the choice. Donald. Now in UK. Donald, 01/16/2008 11:30:12 AM I LIVE IN OZ BUT I HAVE VISITED THE UKBad things about Australia are defiantly the racism. the big cities are far apart. Chicks down here are a bit weird. for the plus side Beer is cheaper than the UK. I found that the people are friendlier and are more laid back. More Beaches and better Facilitys, some things in the UK look run down. Anyway Both countries have their pluses and minuses PS: the Chicks down here thought i was a macho jerk but in the UK they thought i was manly and awesome to be around. I DONT GET IT!!! Troy, 03/14/2008 02:26:04 AM This is AustraliaThis message has moved on a lot since the original post. Here are my thoughts: Australia is more expensive than the UK in many things. Weekly Shopping, a pint of beer, a second hand car etc etc. Fuel Price Cycle - I understand how it works, however no-one has ever managed to explain why it is needed. I have had people try and justify it by reasoning that it is needed for supply and demand. The fact that the price escalates at long weekends and other choice times, tells me the the petrol suppliers have conditioned the Aussies into accepting being ripped off. Stamp Duty - Each time a car is sold/bought Stamp Duty is paid on the vehicle. I understand it is justified on the first sale, but every sale after? Banks pushing people to take out or extend loans, and increasing credit card limits despite a high percentage of people being incredibly high in debt. This is mismanagement which was seen in the UK 15 years ago. People should learn lessons. Hypocracy on peoples safety - Legislation states that all private swimming pools must have a pool fence and gate that complies with state law. However the State Governments do not need to comply with these rules for suburban developments (because of cost)...kids still drown in water features and man made lakes. Driving - Tailgating and owning the road are requirements of driving here. Taxation - unless you live in the centre of a state capital you will not seen the benefit of your tax payment. Food - Healthy food is available but most Aussies will eat burgers, chips with gravy, fried sausages etc etc. Motoring - You do not need to buy insurance for your car. The state registration covers 3rd party insurance for personal injury ( the peron you hit). However, if your insured car is hit by an uninsured car, you need to claim from your insurance company to repair your car, thereby losing your "No claims" bonus. On a plus note for Australia, the electric, gas and water bills are cheaper than the UK. Scotsman in Oz, 03/20/2008 12:01:45 PM No ComparisonC'mon all you other Aussies why are we even bothering in this arguement, look at this list of positives for England. Weather - Cold, wet, grey and miserable. Sport - They are not even very good at the crappy game they invented ie soccer (the only game in the world where you can play for 90mins and have a nil all draw) Music - Robby Williams, Spice Girls just two of the many great talents. Free flowing traffic with wide open roads (not). History - Have invaded nearly every Country in the world. Food - mmm deep fried everything. The list could go on. Just about everyone of you POHM's complaining in this thread say somewhere in there that you live here and you love it. Of course you bloodywell do it's the country that you wish yours was. You guys are the ones with the inferiority complex because you're jealous that you aren't Aussies. Devo, 04/07/2008 10:03:01 AM moany aussies!!oh no! the bloody moany aussies at it again. Taught to hate from birth, yikes. Come down the pub in England with me and my mates, we'll get you drunk, share some laughs, we're not so different, we'll get your aussie ways out of you :) peace your friend in beautiful england, 04/22/2008 03:20:48 AM !!!!!"chocolate doesnt compare to hersheys" just had to highlight this from an american on this thread. mental! surely we can all agree, aussies and brits, that no chocolate in the world is as bad as american chocolate with Hersheys being the worst of a bad bunch give me lindt anyday.. or just a basic dairy milk please twixlover, 06/17/2008 09:25:25 AM and another thing........thought id add things im most going to miss when i emigrate to Oz soon: 1. proper pubs. nice big country pubs, quiz machines, dart boards, 12 different beers from all over the world on draught 2. leafy countryside, rolling hills, rivers, cute villages. i know most aussies dont see this in earls court or fulham but its there trust me. 3. football on a saturday afternoon. playing 5 a side with mates after work 4. roast dinners on a wet and windy sunday. yorkshire pudding, stuffing. roast AND mash potatoes. 5. cosmopilitan, intelligent, trendy london types. some of the most interesting people in the world. im sure they exist in parts of sydney too just not to the same extent 6. quick cheap flights to anywhere in europe things im most lookign forward to in oz 1. sunshine 2. laid back folk !!!!!!!!!, 06/17/2008 09:36:11 AM OH EK!On the verge of movin to Aus, till I read this! is it over egerness to show pride n your own country that fuels the slagging match? Youll get nothin like that from me! Heres my UK, it rains all the bloody time, works hard and not enough pay to cope with the tax issues here, influx of foriegners (aint that rich? that'll be me soon!)They dont speak english have multiple identiteis and claim from the state with all of them. F****** sick of seeing my hard earned cash being stolen by these twats. When in Rome do as the Romans do, that means follow the laws and if ya dont like it, sod off! But...they wont so time to move. Cant wait to get there maybe .. A POM, 09/11/2008 10:47:56 AM The numbers tell the truthIn 2006 the number of overseas-born Australians reached five million, representing almost a quarter (24%) of the total population. Of those born overseas, 1153,300 were born in the UK. The number of Australians living in the UK is estimated at around 200,000. So there are almost 6 Brits in OZ for every Aussie in the UK. What does that tell you? As an expat who has lived in OZ for 30 years, let me spell it out. For the average punter, compared to life in OZ, life in Britain is shite. Sources:http://www.abs.gov.au/ AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/ bb8db737e2af84b8ca2571780015701e /F1C38FAE9E5F2B82CA2573D200110333 ?opendocument http://www.antipodate.com /australia/ Max, 09/14/2008 08:48:03 PM Stop it, it's boring… I don’t know where to start… I’m Australian but have also lived in the US, UK, Central America and China. I have travelled in 32 countries. Every country has its issues, its lowest common denominator and its magnificent exceptions. I live in London now and love it and the UK as a whole. I also love Australia and plan to settle back there in a few years. There are pros and cons to both. There are just as many idiots in the UK per capita as there are in Australia, or indeed in the world as a whole… as evidenced by the slanging match above (with some notable exceptions). Needless to say there are just as many amazing people in both countries… Stop it, it's boring… aussie girl in UK, 10/20/2008 11:01:33 AM Aus vs UK? I lived in the UK for 15 years, I moved here because of family work relocation in 03... I love England because my familys there but I dont miss the rain, the grumpy people (minority)or the dirty towns. The Uk is beautiful in lots of ways - Its vast history, traditional character and countryside. I also love Australia because - There is an air of freedom The good weather is good for keeping positive and happy :) My friends are less stuck up than they were in the UK. I went to a private school here and everyone was treated equally whether they had money or not... which isn't the case in the UK. Each country has pro's and con's which people have said before but I've noticed that that only some Aussies have something against brits and some nasty things have happened to me cause of this. just assumptions about Brits.. which people also assume things about the Australians too, but the people ive met and am friends with are great and decent people and I LOVE the aussie humour, just my opinion I think Aussie and English tv have their moments... little britain, Rove, kath and Kim, Ab Fab are all good... We didn't pay heaps for our tv in the UK either, and sky (which is like foxtel) is pretty much the same channels. I never really watched neighbours or home and away in UK i watched Eastenders but now its the other way around, I like neighbours.Its just adjusting to another culture and the aspects of it you can relate to or learn to love. Of course you are going to get ur fair share of people who just want to mouth off and cause trouble but thats everywhere. I wouldn't ever put someone down because of where they come from because I know what its like... Just putting an opinion out there. p.s. not going back to UK anytime soon with the $1 equating to 35p!! shocking. Charl87, 10/27/2008 11:59:03 PM RemovedThis comment was removed as it contained offensive content. Da Cat, 05/04/2009 10:24:20 PM Work place bullyingwork place bullying... I thing just because we came from britain, my wife is facing workplace bullying in cabrini hospital malvern vic. she is being insulted and bullied. because she is on probation perion now she cis scared to react or respond. and when i look in related websites, there no rule in australia for protecting human rights of experienced probationary employees. pathetic isnt it!!!!!!! Joseph T, 06/22/2009 05:20:20 PM brit living in australiai have to say that australia is pretty s**t, i have been living here for around 8 months and australia is not what it is glammed up to be , in fact its pretty dissapointing. lewis, 07/22/2009 05:39:37 AM
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