Next time get a pro to write your media release. They should make me think of the idea and then your name appears as credible, it shouldn't read as a paid advertisment.

If the LAFHA helps, go for it, but as usual there are strings attached, the government is NOT in the buisness of giving free money to high paid workers.

What about the MASSIVE IT down turn, its worst than the DOT com crash of 2000-2003.

sd

Does ketchup come with that?

The crash is still only early days - wait another 6 months - its gonna be hell.

... and here I am toying with the idea of going back to contracting.

What was I thinking!

You might get in at half the normal rate.

History repeats.

Hawkwind crash prediction perhaps correct. Dow Jones fall from cliff. ASX now four years low and Aussie bank big troubles. LAFHA allowance of not matter when bad holidays facing all.

How about a new topic? Like the financial crisis and the impact on Aussie IT. How bad is it really out there?

Please create a NEW topic on something which is affecting all of us at the moment. Big scale outsourcing of our IT jobs to India.

One week I still laboured under the delusion that my team was safe. Not any longer. Outsourcing is now being ramped up in a big way.

One of the outsourcers is Satyam. One of their clients was the World Bank. But no longer... have a read of this:

http://www.itexaminer.com/satyam-world-bank-scandal-widens.aspx

Come on Joey. When peoples to accept India now IT strengths? But still remains propogandas. Next will blame for finance crisis.

GL

GL,

You should pay attention to the fact that this is an INDIAN website, which is reporting on the Satyam scandal.

Unless of course you are a racist, and are going to accuse this indian website of being liars...

Sacked IT worker attempts suicide

AN EDS Australia employee attempted to take his own life at work after he was told he had lost his job. Hewlett-Packard's acquisition of EDS will result in several hundred local workers, or around 7.5 per cent of the combined workforce, losing their jobs over the next three years.

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Probably, someone who couldn't take it that Aussie ICT is going the way of the dodo bird and the manufacturing sector.

In the upcoming years, this kind of desperation will no longer be an anomaly. With the worsening global depression, this is but the tip of the iceberg. Would-be IT students should take note. Pick up IT as a hobby, not a make-belief career choice.

Lets face it, the knowledge capital of most IT workers, is pretty much useless for making a living outside IT.

Sacked IT worker attempts suicide

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - US technology giant Hewlett-Packard (HP) said Monday it would cut 24,600 jobs worldwide over the next three years as part of its integration with computer services firm Electronic Data Systems.

The world leading computer maker HP bought the Texas-based business services outsourcing titan EDS in August as part of a 13.9 billion dollar deal that aimed to create a global powerhouse in computer services to compete against IBM.

HP to cut 24,600 jobs

Perhaps Kevin Rudd to fix trouble? If not such busy overseas jetsets. More overseas trip than aussie cricket team. 12 months in top job with smiles only not action.

GL

For most over 40 ICT workers with a mortagage and a family to feed, getting the sack at this time is pretty much a death knell for their career & quality standard of living. That is not even considering how many actually lost alot of their life savings in those "financial investment" instruments.

Can't get something for nothing.

Ironic isn't it. The fools wonder why mortgages are not being repaid.

The crux of the economic downturn.

No doubt the US Government will have to prop up Citigroup.

Morning Edition, October 9, 2008.

The Nobel Prize in chemistry was awarded this week to three scientists working in the United States with a jellyfish protein that glows in the dark. But the scientist who found the gene for that protein, and gave it to the eventual Nobel winners, is no longer working in the field. He now drives a shuttle bus for an auto dealership.

Glowing Gene's Discoverer Left Out Of Nobel Prize

...and his wikipedia entry

Douglas Prasher

RE:

Razor Gang MKII

I've heard quite a number of contractors at my dept will be dumped in 2009.

Sounds like a gloomy IT year ahead.

Peter

We need a forum on the lack of IT recruiters transperency.

When i say transperency in mean honesty. Notice when there is a down turn in IT, these vulture simply lie and dont disclose information.

expecially what they earn from the client.

The full amount paid by the client should be informed to the candidate.

mc

...and thats not the only thing.

There are usually 1,000's of bogus job adverts and the claim that there is a skills shortage despite the fact that there are 1,000's getting laid off.

Avoid them completely and do you own marketing, perhaps some info on FaceBook or similar.

Another alternative is instead of going on the dole, do a course at TAFE and go on AUSTUDY rather than wasting a year or so.

http://www.contractoruk.com/news/004073.html

And this is just one story amongst many. Hundreds of thousands of IT jobs are being axed all over the world.

The only funny thing about this, is that some news outlets were reporting that IT executives at otehr companies became nervous when they heard about these killings.

Hmmm... wonder why?

http://www.contractoruk.com/news/004076.html

The slide since the announcement of the layoffs in September.

Hewlett-Packard Company (HPQ)

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Some of us are extremely successful IT professionals, and we do not appreciate your negativity. The overall tone of the comments on this forum has become increasing dismal and appalling.

Joey - we are not interested in your stories of gloom.

Starving - please do not tell us about IT workers committing suicide. Again, we are not interested.

Hawkwind & Peter - if you have not anything positive to say, then please refrain from saying anything at all.

Macca - please do not denigrate the integrity of those professionals, who like myself, are doing extremely well in IT.

Joey - as I said to Starving, we are just simply not interested in these types of stories.

Mua - please wash out your mouth with soap. Your school playground language is not appreciated in this forum.

To conclude: guys, if you have not got positive, upbeat story about how great the IT industry is, then please refrain from saying anything at all.

Thank you.

Charles. (MSCE)

Listen up 'Lil Paper Tiger:

THE TRUTH HURTS!!!!!!!!

yep listen to charles, its not negativity its FACT.

The IT recruitment industry needs to be regulated, They should not have the right to determine if you have a career or not, they act like the gate keepers.

They shut out out siders simply looking for work when there is an IT down turn.

Also they use fake job ads on SEEKIT to update there resume database.

If you see huge $$$'s in the ad, its likly to be a fake ad.

I never use seekIT, but tap into the hidden job market.

sid

sd

Yep!!!!!

Hawkwind (ABCDEFG)

If you see one of them BOGUS job adverts - report it to The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

Misleading & deceptive conduct

Recruitment advertising

Case History

Hawkwind (CNE)

“Horror” year for IT jobs continues

“On a state by state basis [for the IT sector ], NSW is down 22.75 per cent for the year, Victoria is down 27.32, even WA is down 9.8 per cent… IT in QLD is down 23.43 per cent, and the other big one that I think is also accounting for some of the difficulty in the IT sector is the ACT which is down 17.56 per cent…and its going to be more of the same we fear.”

Minister for Finance and Deregulation, Lindsay Tanner, has defended the decision to proceed with a 50 per cent cut in government ICT contractors as part of the Federal Government’s acceptance in full of the Gershon review recommendations.

Gershon contractor cuts the right approach: Tanner

MCSE = loser

CNE = loser

Worthless IT certs in general = loser

MBBS = WINNER !

Yep, threw mine in the garbage bin ages ago Gloomyshoes.

In the middle of a psychology degree right now.

Hawkwind aka CodeCutter (WXYZ)

Excellent news. You'll be busy tending to suicidal and depressed IT losers.

Exactly.

Took me a little while to adjust to the life and work of a student as a mature age entry, but now I enjoy it and have made many good friends. I even have a social life now!

Joey,

just to let you know that I am interested in reading about both positive and negative stuff. Keeps this forum interesting so feel free to keep posting (relevant) links.

Sorry, Charles, I've been visiting this site often and it fills in a ... erm ... "void" or niche.

Where else would I find about such things? This is my "one-stop-shop" for all vaguely IT-related mumbo jumbo.

Sure, there are trolls contributing but you learn to skim over these when you begin to recognise the copied/pasted rant time and time again (especially from would-be doctors and caviar-craving dole-bludgers)...

There are characters the likes of Hawkwind, Gloomyshoes, GL, etc. And, yes, there were discussions about how many of these were from the one person - but I don't care.

This site has "found its way" and I'm comfortable with it.

What I have noticed of late, however, is the lack of topics. And that's not good.

Laz incorrect. GL == Iron Leopard king technicals never paper tiger. Gloomyshoe mad medine man only happy for finance crunch. Hawkwind very bitterness man. Both wrong attitude only loss and fails. Similar as spring lamb flee great wall street bear... When tech career fail best leave without complains.

Good attitude bring karma keys to life success. Bring great happy, top job and fortune. Credit crunch then easy surivals... and more relaxation than Andrew Symond on fishing trip.

Stay easy mates.

Great Leopard

Midnight Wisdom

Like you I'm run a very successful IT company. To be honest we have never had it better.

I mainly come on here to see hawkwind try to dazzel us with his "industry experience" (yes, he wrote the book on the 10 things you don't do to remain employeed, each of the 10 things was personally tested by him, just to make sure they got you fired.) And gloomy thinking the medical industry will be better.

Now assuming gloomy is even a real person, I bet he won't be able to hack 10 minutes as a Dr when he graduates. Losers like him whom hang around a forum based on an industry which he couldn't hack it in, hanging shit on the still successful ones, don't tend to do well in life period.

In fact, for all the people who comment here, and yet have left the industry I'd suggest the dole is a better use of your time, at least you can stop pretending your actually contributing to society.

PS, Paul, what ever you imagined this forum to be, you have failed, big time. you do yourself and the industry no favours by allowing this to be the shit dumping ground of a whole heap of trolls.

With regard the final comment about the forum failing - and the blame being squared at Paul..... not sure about that. The reason it is failing (if in fact it is) is the narrow minded, stupid comments posted by the regular users, who would probably be better of actually doing some work rather than surfing the net all day!!

Get over yourselves! All of you.

A lot will find this type of advice useful - you know-all so called IT Professionals obviously do not, so move on....and quit your bitching!

Like seriously moderate the forum (or give certain users the ability to moderate). I know that he doesn't want to step in to much, but serious, make a set of rules and force people to stick by them (or posts deleted \ 24 hour bans \ permanent bans) The trolls will leave before too long. I've seen internet forums be turned around by doing it.

And when that happens I'll be more than happy to use my real name again, because there are every so oftan gems.

I understand the numerous eligibility requirements to receive LAFHA, however one point still remains unclear.

If a contractor from NSW, voluntary decides to relocate to ACT for 12 months for a contract position with the intention to return back to NSW. Will they qualify for LAHFA?

So in the scenario, the person decides to resign from current position to take up new short term employment interstate as a contractor? Does he/she qualify for LAFHA?

Thanks all!

James, this isn't the place for that. Keep your intelligent questions to yourself thanks. This zoo is for trolls and their feeder’s only.

no intelligence here - just bitter twisted unemployable relics!

I'm living in Melbourne with my girlfriend on a Dafacto Spousal Visa, so i guess i'm a temporary resident.

I'm not sponsored with work as i'm here by defacto so am i still eligible for LAFHA?

I also have an apartment with a mortgage back in the UK which i currently rent out. I'm currenty renting here in Sydney which costs me more than the mortgage didd back in the UK.

I dont want to jeapordise my visa situation when it comes to the permanent residency side of things next year by applying for LAFHA.

Can anyone answer this?