School's tech curriculum boring
Friday, 20 June 2008
There's an interesting story over at Business Week about how boring tech classes are putting kids off studying IT. It's specifically about Britain, but it appears to be just as relevant here. It seems all over the Western world, fewer and fewer school leavers are choosing to study IT.
It seems most tech classes in school focus on Word and Excel, which is hardly of great interest to high school kids. Instead, experts feel deeper IT skills should be taught.
"The current curriculum is having an extremely negative impact on young people's attitudes to IT," Karen Price, CEO of tech industry skills body e-skills UK, is quoted as saying. "Young people are not choosing to study [computer sciences]. We're sitting on a time-bomb, quite frankly."
Personally, I think a big problem is the IT industry's image problem. I'm not talking about how it's perceived to be full of nerds. Instead, I think many people see IT as a very risky career choice, with lots of ups and downs. It's seen as an area where you can be earning big money one year, and sitting at home with your career over the next.
When I was young, studying IT was seen to have a promising future. I just don't get that people are having that impression any more.
Read the full story at Business Week (thanks Aaron).
Paul Knapp (editor@brainbox.com.au)
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Accurate PKIT suffers from so many problems. 1) No job security. 2) Poorly paid (considering the hours). 3) Shocking reputation. 4) Filled with nerds. 5) No women! 6) Generally, crap and boring work. 7) Crap managers looking over their shoulders waiting for the pink slip. 8) Plagued by "recruiters" and their shonky practices (frankly, I don't know why they are still in business). 9) Plagued by the likes of the ACS and ITCRA. 10) No political clout and hence irrelevant from a Government policy point of view. Keep gobbling down the SSRI's losers. Gloomyshoes, 06/19/2008 10:33:06 AM Could be turned around easily.I agree that more needs to be done to educate the IT guys of tomorrow. But I don't think a lack of interest is a problem. The kids of today use the internet constantly, they blog, they have facebook. They play Grad Theft Auto on their playstations/xboxs They use ipods, mobile phones (all of which rely heavily on IT). But they use them with a "black box" mentality...they don't care what goes on inside/how they work. What the IT educators need to do is turn that interest into a learning focus. More comms, more web programming at an earlier age. Also need to train up the teachers. I still remember being tought my first IT classes back in high school by an old crusty who barely knew how to turn on a computer (but could interpret binary and hexadecimal). That said it was over 16 years ago... Yoda, 06/19/2008 07:14:12 PM There's always hope in the windI went through a period where I could boot up and network mini-computers, but new next to nothing about PCs. The currently stood-down NSW education Minister is a great fan of open systems Withheld, 06/19/2008 07:31:14 PM What problem?Do I care that less people are coming into IT. Absolutely not!!. It's good for the people that are in the industry. More negotiation power, higher pay. Gloomy - Poorly paid - not. A lot of people just do 9-5 and nudge the $90-100K base. Or go contracting on an hourly rate. Then you'll LOVE extra hours, :-)). Crap and boring work - not. More around a bit. Learn some business stuff as well. anyway, can't say Accounting for example is really exciting work. MK, 06/19/2008 08:38:13 PM Crytal Ball Gloomy 2010Leopard predict gloomyshoe make medical industrys complaints by 2010: 1) To many indian and chinese doctor take job 2) Specialist over paids and smart ass 3) Bad Reputation for drunk and chase nurse 4) Filled with lunatic and bad temper 5) Nurse uglys and with rejections 6) Customer fat old mans with buttock problems not fun 7) Hospital administrator nasty and want fire gloomy 8) HR not treat doctor well without payrise 9) AMA pains and high fee 10) Kevin Rudds not support doctors well without understands Gloomy never happy no matter what. Sure fact as world turns. Great Leopard, 06/19/2008 09:20:27 PM Delusional IndianHave you run out of zoloft my little curry leopard? Gloomyshoes, 06/19/2008 10:45:28 PM Suffer!"The human condition is suffering" Therefore Gloomy is about as close to the truth as you're going to get. Snu210, 06/19/2008 10:54:51 PM Australia sucks$90-100k. Big deal. You can get that doing pretty much anything. People like their internet and playstations but you don't have to be einstein to know the work behind it is boring. What? So everyone who likes music is going to spend 10 years learning the piano? People who like TV are all going to go and buy Dick Smith kits and become electronics experts? Yeah right, that got nailed and sent offshore decades ago. They're all doing accounting and business because yeah it's boring, but you don't end up CEO making millions a year and getting bonuses sending IT jobs offshore by studying comp sci. Um, how about they pay people more and stop being so arrogant with job requirements? Oh no we can't have those nerds turning into life's winners can we! Gotta pay those useless turds in HR and give a huge cut to the recruitment agencies. Story should have read: "Gen Y and Z aren't morons." Australia sucks, 06/20/2008 12:18:08 AM Story should have read: "Gen Y and Z aren't morons."I'm very impressed by Y and Z. They watched their parents get slaughtered and have learnt well without having to go through it themselves. Gloomyshoes, 06/20/2008 12:26:51 AM Suffer and starveWell I won't be counting on living on a gov pension unless I want to starve!!! Instead of buying a house I might just retire early and have a nice life in another country..... Snu210, 06/20/2008 02:00:52 AM loserswho is more of a loser? an ex-ITer who posts on an IT contractor board that all the other posters are "losers". or a bunch of contractors who are willing to do the boring work for loads of cash, without complaining. brownie, 06/20/2008 03:17:22 AM Re: loosersGuess who's back Back again DR_SUCK is back ,Tell a friend Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back,guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back.. I've created a monster, cause nobody wants to see Gloomy no more They want GL, I'm chopped liver (huh?) Well if you want GL, this is what I'll give ya A little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor Some vodka that'll jump start my heart quicker So If Brownie won't let me be or let me be me, so let me see They try to shut me down on BrainBox But it feels so empty, without me Socrates, 06/20/2008 06:29:37 AM RedDot developer (bwhahahahahaha)Get it? RedDot .... bwhahahahaha. Bet they'd get a huge response in Bangalore. Bwhahahahahaha. http://www.brainbox.com.au/brainbox/jobs.nsf/$all/57FF94A313978FEACA25746D000A6C84?opendocument Gloomyshoes, 06/21/2008 03:17:47 AM GloomyshoesGloomyshoes = Hawkwind? Seems he back! Gonu Ganguly, 06/21/2008 06:03:50 PM Medicinal for gloomyGloomy seem man of problem and depress. Been there once mates losts love of pretty woman. Then spend ten days alone in wild in depress and angry. One night large leopard appear. Eyes fire red under moon light's. But without attack disapper in night. With life spare finds healing, inner peace and power. Dr Leopard try prescription for Gloomy. Take leave in Australian wilds. Live with natives and wild dog in northern province. Find healing. Return to world new man. Natural always better than drug. GL Great Leopard, 06/21/2008 07:19:25 PM Re: Medicinal for gloomyThe one thing that would depress me is to work in the IT industry. Anyone that ever worked and is working in the IT industry is a loser! Gloomyshoes, 06/21/2008 09:06:11 PM "...Not too bright, thouh....""Anyone that ever worked and is working in the IT industry is a loser!" It sounds like Gloomy just admitted what we all already knew: he is a looser... Mr B, 06/22/2008 03:39:17 AM SpottyWhy drink and drive home when you can take drugs and fly home? Snu210, 06/22/2008 08:59:50 PM LoL"Leopard predict gloomyshoe make medical industrys complaints by 2010: 1) To many indian and chinese doctor take job 2) Specialist over paids and smart ass 3) Bad Reputation for drunk and chase nurse 4) Filled with lunatic and bad temper 5) Nurse uglys and with rejections 6) Customer fat old mans with buttock problems not fun 7) Hospital administrator nasty and want fire gloomy 8) HR not treat doctor well without payrise 9) AMA pains and high fee 10) Kevin Rudds not support doctors well without understands" Some of your best work so far GL. I loled :) Dimes, 06/22/2008 11:42:42 PM GLtop post LOL brownie, 06/23/2008 12:03:45 AM Hey spot!Hope your not like 85% of your Indian "colleagues". http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Many_job_aspirants_give_fake_educational_documents/articleshow/3129453.cms Gloomyshoes, 06/23/2008 01:39:28 AM no one wants to pay for IT No one wants to Pay for IT it seams MC macca, 06/23/2008 08:18:35 AM
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